MODEDIT: Most of this was just swearing, so I'm censoring it all. Basically, Papl is claiming that Sam and max514 cussed them out on some kind of web chat, under the name "Sim2434".
I don't see why this thread exists. Sam and max514 has so far behaved on this forum, and if he continues to do so that's fine. Complaining about his actions on another forum here is of no use. If he swears or curses on this forum that's his problem and the mods will deal with it. If not then I see no reason to take any action against him.
So far you, Papl, are the only one to swear on this forum. Using a 1 instead of an I doesn't make it any more acceptable.
Ehh, me neither. I just generally don't like conflict. Arguing isn't all that productive, so banning one side of an argument is an excellent way of ending it. And Sam was the obvious choice to stay since he's actually contributed to the community some, unlike this other guy.
But really, I totally don't trust Sam anyway. I don't trust anyone. It's the Internet; you really CAN'T trust anyone. For all I know, what Papl posted is really what Sam said. If Sam starts misbehaving here, I'd ban him in a heartbeat. I'd ban anyone for misbehaving. I'm a mod, that's what I do: Ban the bad guys. Telling me to trust/not trust someone doesn't really change my actions at all, and posting logs from a webchat where you can probably change nicknames with a simple /nick command doesn't really help prove any point.
If he'd answered any of the logical, rational questions and observations puggsoy had made, I'd be inclined to pay him more heed, but his utter disregard for any kind of logic just shows to me that he's a troll. I don't really care if he's right or not if he's going about it the wrong way.
eh...I don’t see the reason of fighting. just the creator of this topic wanted to say an opinion and you attack that person like that? Just say that you trust Sam. Instead of starting a fight. But the creator didn’t start the fight, you guys started it.
Accidentally pressed reply to 9.
Ok, to be clear: I don't really care one way or the other, so long as people behave halway decently. I don't think that following someone around the Internet to slander them is really the right way to go about things, hence why I banned Papl. Fine, so perhaps I didn't do it in the most gracious way possible, but he didn't exactly give me much in the way of intelligent conversation to judge him by (Coming on a forum and saying someone shouldn't be trusted? I mean, who really cares? And calling me a sociopath just for calling him a troll? Grow up). If you guys are halfway intelligent enough to make a decent argument, then I'm all ears. If all you can do is follow people around the Internet to slander them, call mods sociopaths for no real reason, and accuse someone (aka puggsoy) who has made a fully rational and logical statement of "doing nothing but fighting," then there's no point in you being here in the first place. You're just being antagonistic.
Now I recognize that it is very easy to miscommunicate emotion on the Internet, but there are ways of coming across as level-headed, and so far the only person who has done so here has been puggsoy. I would personally like to know what's going on specifically, so details are welcome, rather than sentence-long overgeneralizations. From what I understand, Sam joined your forum, nagged people about Little Inferno, drove people nuts, and got banned for it. He even posted a forum topic to this effect, which none of you have contradicted.
This leaves me only one option for who you guys are and why you are here: You followed him here because you are cyber bullies who think that he hasn't learned his lesson enough, and you will follow him and antagonize him until you get bored, which will take quite a long while.
If this is true, I have no choice but to tell you all to grow up and/or ban all of you, because this is not a forum that allows bullying.
If this is not true, you have nothing to lose, so state your stance on the matter calmly and rationally. Explain why you are here and what you have to contribute.
tl;dr State your opinion calmly and specifically, or don't say anything at all. This goes for the Internet in general, not just here.
And if I'm correct, I have a good guess as to how you'll respond already.
<!-- How I think you'll respond: "ZOMG UR SUCH A BULLY. YOU HYPOCRITE YOU." -->
Well, you are overreacting! cyber bullies? like come on,man. You are sooo much overreacting. You are creating drama from nowhere bro. and you guys provoked Papl to say that you guys are sociopaths. I am standing up for the truth and justice. And if you are a moderator you should take decisions wisely not intantly ban and saying "banning one of the argument sides will stop the argument" Yeah it will sure stop the argument but one side of the argument would still be free is your goal like stopping the argument and ban one side? You shouldn’t ban both of the sides or ban both of the sides banning one side only is not fair. And you just said "tl;dr State your opinion calmly and specifically" didn’t Papl stated her opinion calmly at first, but then you guys provoked her? sigh...just sigh.
You know when I said "And if I'm correct, I have a good guess as to how you'll respond already."? Well, guess what? That's the exact response I expected. Completely predictable trolling. 0/10. Banned. In fact, I'll even uncomment the section of my last post where I predicted how I thought you'd lash out at me.
When backed into a corner, a troll lashes out rather than responding rationally. It's simple, really.
Ummm ... too much misbehavior would get banned. :/
EDIT: I'm confused.
EDIT #2: Oh great PAPL, you're banned before and you made another account as KKE (KitKatExtreme)? *facepalm* Anyways, stop, stop attacking.
KKE: As I said before, I'm not really interested in name-calling and arguing in general. My statements earlier about people trolling were justified, even to the extent where I used my knowlege of the definition of a troll to predict M DR. Rap's next comment, which was correct to a tee. I'd encourage you to read up on trolling in general if you think I was unjustified in calling him and Papl trolls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Chances are, you are a troll yourself, and all you'll do is insult me back. But I honestly don't care. I'm grown up enough to not really care if people get mad at me on the Internet and insult me for no real reason. I'd encourage you to vent your anger in other ways than insulting strangers semi-anonymously, but in the grand scheme of things, I can't control that. What I can control is how you vent your anger towards other people, since some people may become genuinely upset about petty slander. And rightfully so.
I do believe, however, that the most productive path forward is to close this discussion, as nothing more of value can be said here on either side of the matter. For the time being, KKE, you are not banned. If, however, you or anyone else attempt to slander someone or continue this discussion in another forum topic without doing so in a completely logical and rational way, they will recieve a ban. I apologize that there is no forum rules I can link you to in order to justify my stance, and I will upload some as quickly as possible.
Lilith: As far as I can tell, you're a genuinely nice person, and you can stick around if you like, as well.
Sam: I'd like to commend you for not responding for most of this topic, as it shows you're a fairly level-headed person. You may stay if you like, as well.
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Listen. That guy is an imposter. Didn't he told you he was a few weeks ago? He told me if he can impose me, i said "do what you want."
I don't see why this thread exists. Sam and max514 has so far behaved on this forum, and if he continues to do so that's fine. Complaining about his actions on another forum here is of no use. If he swears or curses on this forum that's his problem and the mods will deal with it. If not then I see no reason to take any action against him.
So far you, Papl, are the only one to swear on this forum. Using a 1 instead of an I doesn't make it any more acceptable.
0/10. Troll better next time, Papl.
Actually, don't bother. I'll just ban you if you do.
Ban me?! Heh, I wasn't even swearing to you guys...why matter? I think its you being a sociopath here.
Trolololol, you're funny. I like you.
Nah, I'm over it. Ban.
Good one, Daxar!
well i dont know about this...
Ehh, me neither. I just generally don't like conflict. Arguing isn't all that productive, so banning one side of an argument is an excellent way of ending it. And Sam was the obvious choice to stay since he's actually contributed to the community some, unlike this other guy.
But really, I totally don't trust Sam anyway. I don't trust anyone. It's the Internet; you really CAN'T trust anyone. For all I know, what Papl posted is really what Sam said. If Sam starts misbehaving here, I'd ban him in a heartbeat. I'd ban anyone for misbehaving. I'm a mod, that's what I do: Ban the bad guys. Telling me to trust/not trust someone doesn't really change my actions at all, and posting logs from a webchat where you can probably change nicknames with a simple /nick command doesn't really help prove any point.
If he'd answered any of the logical, rational questions and observations puggsoy had made, I'd be inclined to pay him more heed, but his utter disregard for any kind of logic just shows to me that he's a troll. I don't really care if he's right or not if he's going about it the wrong way.
Hey, I'm a friend of PAPL, so um ... I'm Lilith Grotesque, as Lilith from the other forums. so what happened here?
PS: I'm not about to invade this forum, so I'll stay quiet.
~Lilith Grotesque
eh...I don’t see the reason of fighting. just the creator of this topic wanted to say an opinion and you attack that person like that? Just say that you trust Sam. Instead of starting a fight. But the creator didn’t start the fight, you guys started it.
Accidentally pressed reply to 9.
*facepalms* Mr, Mohammed, nope.
I didn’t mean Papl I ment Sam and the other dudes.
Oh.
*sigh*
Ok, to be clear: I don't really care one way or the other, so long as people behave halway decently. I don't think that following someone around the Internet to slander them is really the right way to go about things, hence why I banned Papl. Fine, so perhaps I didn't do it in the most gracious way possible, but he didn't exactly give me much in the way of intelligent conversation to judge him by (Coming on a forum and saying someone shouldn't be trusted? I mean, who really cares? And calling me a sociopath just for calling him a troll? Grow up). If you guys are halfway intelligent enough to make a decent argument, then I'm all ears. If all you can do is follow people around the Internet to slander them, call mods sociopaths for no real reason, and accuse someone (aka puggsoy) who has made a fully rational and logical statement of "doing nothing but fighting," then there's no point in you being here in the first place. You're just being antagonistic.
Now I recognize that it is very easy to miscommunicate emotion on the Internet, but there are ways of coming across as level-headed, and so far the only person who has done so here has been puggsoy. I would personally like to know what's going on specifically, so details are welcome, rather than sentence-long overgeneralizations. From what I understand, Sam joined your forum, nagged people about Little Inferno, drove people nuts, and got banned for it. He even posted a forum topic to this effect, which none of you have contradicted.
This leaves me only one option for who you guys are and why you are here: You followed him here because you are cyber bullies who think that he hasn't learned his lesson enough, and you will follow him and antagonize him until you get bored, which will take quite a long while.
If this is true, I have no choice but to tell you all to grow up and/or ban all of you, because this is not a forum that allows bullying.
If this is not true, you have nothing to lose, so state your stance on the matter calmly and rationally. Explain why you are here and what you have to contribute.
tl;dr State your opinion calmly and specifically, or don't say anything at all. This goes for the Internet in general, not just here.
And if I'm correct, I have a good guess as to how you'll respond already.
<!-- How I think you'll respond: "ZOMG UR SUCH A BULLY. YOU HYPOCRITE YOU." -->
Well, you are overreacting! cyber bullies? like come on,man. You are sooo much overreacting. You are creating drama from nowhere bro. and you guys provoked Papl to say that you guys are sociopaths. I am standing up for the truth and justice. And if you are a moderator you should take decisions wisely not intantly ban and saying "banning one of the argument sides will stop the argument" Yeah it will sure stop the argument but one side of the argument would still be free is your goal like stopping the argument and ban one side? You shouldn’t ban both of the sides or ban both of the sides banning one side only is not fair. And you just said "tl;dr State your opinion calmly and specifically" didn’t Papl stated her opinion calmly at first, but then you guys provoked her? sigh...just sigh.
M dr, wait, so your mohammed?
Yah.
well.... swearing isn't really allowed here even if it's censored.
...Well the swearing was from the conversation on the other forum, that you or your imposter or whatever swore there. It was not Papl swearing here.
This made my day. Quote of the day.
You know when I said "And if I'm correct, I have a good guess as to how you'll respond already."? Well, guess what? That's the exact response I expected. Completely predictable trolling. 0/10. Banned. In fact, I'll even uncomment the section of my last post where I predicted how I thought you'd lash out at me.
When backed into a corner, a troll lashes out rather than responding rationally. It's simple, really.
Ummm ... too much misbehavior would get banned. :/
EDIT: I'm confused.
EDIT #2: Oh great PAPL, you're banned before and you made another account as KKE (KitKatExtreme)? *facepalm* Anyways, stop, stop attacking.
KKE: As I said before, I'm not really interested in name-calling and arguing in general. My statements earlier about people trolling were justified, even to the extent where I used my knowlege of the definition of a troll to predict M DR. Rap's next comment, which was correct to a tee. I'd encourage you to read up on trolling in general if you think I was unjustified in calling him and Papl trolls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Chances are, you are a troll yourself, and all you'll do is insult me back. But I honestly don't care. I'm grown up enough to not really care if people get mad at me on the Internet and insult me for no real reason. I'd encourage you to vent your anger in other ways than insulting strangers semi-anonymously, but in the grand scheme of things, I can't control that. What I can control is how you vent your anger towards other people, since some people may become genuinely upset about petty slander. And rightfully so.
I do believe, however, that the most productive path forward is to close this discussion, as nothing more of value can be said here on either side of the matter. For the time being, KKE, you are not banned. If, however, you or anyone else attempt to slander someone or continue this discussion in another forum topic without doing so in a completely logical and rational way, they will recieve a ban. I apologize that there is no forum rules I can link you to in order to justify my stance, and I will upload some as quickly as possible.
Lilith: As far as I can tell, you're a genuinely nice person, and you can stick around if you like, as well.
Sam: I'd like to commend you for not responding for most of this topic, as it shows you're a fairly level-headed person. You may stay if you like, as well.
Topic closed.